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Old 05-15-2007, 06:24 PM
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SWG - NGE was a failure

okays we all know that but some clanie linked me this on our forum, dont mean much now but...


Hello Everyone,

Today I would like to formally announce that SOE has acquired the assets of Sigil Games Online, including Vanguard: Saga of Heroes. As a part of this acquisition, we are bringing on approx 50 people from Sigil in order to insure that Vanguard continues to grow. SOE is dedicated to making sure that Vanguard is well taken care of and that we provide the same level of service we do for our other titles. In the near future we will come out with a publishing plan that will largely be driven by the strong player community that Vanguard has already built up. We plan on supporting Vanguard for many years to come, and you can expect many content updates as part of your subscription. Down the line we will of course be coming out with new expansion packs, but right now the focus is on making sure Vanguard is running the way it should be.

We are also officially opening up forums. In the past, our deal with Sigil didn't allow for this, but as with our other games we feel this is an important part of communicating with the playerbase. You can expect a strong presence from our community team as well as the development team members. While we realize that Sigil had said they wouldn't open up general forums, at SOE we feel this hampers our efforts to communicate effectively with the players. We will continue to support the fansites in a big way, and will be contacting many of them directly to discuss what this change means. By no means do we want to lose the strong fansite support by making this change, but we do think it's important to have a forum for players to communicate directly with SOE.

A few other items I wanted to mention

1. Brad McQuaid will be consultant to SOE as a creative advisor for Vanguard. Dave Gilbertson will be the person directly responsible for the day-to-day management of both the Sigil Carlsbad office as well as Vanguard.

2. We do not plan on making any major changes to Vanguard. Any changes are going to come from the team itself. We aren't mandating any big changes to the game. We've learned a thing or two with our experiences with the NGE and don't plan on repeating mistakes from the past and not listening to the players.

3. We do plan on spending a lot of time cleaning up legacy issues with Vanguard and making sure the game's performance improves.

By way of comparison, this team is approx. the same size as the EQ2 team and I feel like that team has done an amazing job improving EQ2 since it's launch. We intend to do the same thing for Vanguard and it is our hope that the players feel like we're doing right by them.

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Message edited by Smed on 05/15/2007 12:48:53.

http://forums.station.sony.com/vg/po...?topic_id=9105

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Old 05-15-2007, 06:34 PM
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Ah that's where Smedley ran off too then.
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Ah that's where Smedley ran off too then.

Ran off?

he was ceo of SOE .

He still is.


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I always find these posts kind of funny, in a desperate attempt to prove that SOE are the devil, people dont even read what was actually said in the post they cut and paste.

he says, as he admitted at a fan fest this year, that not discussing the changes with the playerbase was a mistake.

He doesnt say , and never has, that the nge was a mistake,merely the implimentation.

the frothing morons that need to still , 2 years on, prove something over a grudge about a game , and are so dense they cant even read the statement properly make me laugh more than anything soe ever did.
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Is it wrong of me to want to reactivate my SWG account? I miss bounty hunting.
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We've learned a thing or two with our experiences with the NGE and don't plan on repeating mistakes from the past and not listening to the players
Ahahahh, made me chuckle.
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Ran off?

he was ceo of SOE .

He still is.


to the OP.
I always find these posts kind of funny, in a desperate attempt to prove that SOE are the devil, people dont even read what was actually said in the post they cut and paste.

he says, as he admitted at a fan fest this year, that not discussing the changes with the playerbase was a mistake.

He doesnt say , and never has, that the nge was a mistake,merely the implimentation.

the frothing morons that need to still , 2 years on, prove something over a grudge about a game , and are so dense they cant even read the statement properly make me laugh more than anything soe ever did.

You know Vob your 100% right over this,this constent SOE bashing is at best childish and at worst boring.

Yup they made mistakes thats for sure but its life,given space they need they will turn VG around as they have done to EQ2 but of course its SOE so it must suck..well they dont,they may not reinvent the wheel but then again nor do Blizzard they make solid enjoyable games.

This NGE shite is tired old news and really its time to let go of it.
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Is it wrong of me to want to reactivate my SWG account? I miss bounty hunting.
Keep your memories, you'll only be disappointed (and I only say this as a CU bh, not a preCU one)

Hell, BH now is even worse than NGE BH used to be, and thats saying a lot
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So whats the newer NGE acronym then? NGE+ neo-NGE? or perhaps CRAP
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Ran off?

he was ceo of SOE .

He still is.


to the OP.
I always find these posts kind of funny, in a desperate attempt to prove that SOE are the devil, people dont even read what was actually said in the post they cut and paste.

he says, as he admitted at a fan fest this year, that not discussing the changes with the playerbase was a mistake.

He doesnt say , and never has, that the nge was a mistake,merely the implimentation.

the frothing morons that need to still , 2 years on, prove something over a grudge about a game , and are so dense they cant even read the statement properly make me laugh more than anything soe ever did.
lol, attempt to prove they are the devil. Nada to with that.

SWG, nge is the past. However i posted this cuz i thought some of you peeps might find this intersting in a way. Were all ex player right?

and FYI im glad SOE took over vanguard, they know fantasy n' they have the cash to keep it going.
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I dunno, but it sucks enough for me to not play it
did I miss something? new Nge or whatever it is going to SWG again?
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The fights now with BH aren't too bad, I respecced my alt to BH for a new challenge and few fights I've had weren't too bad with all the buffs and stuff, although I never tried BH pre nge/pre cu so wouldn't really know much. But then there's yet more combat changes in chapter 6 (publish 36) this week, which puts pvp dmg reduction to 0% so fights will last about 5 seconds probably,

And as the thing about Smedley running off, I mean he's not done anything with swg lately, as he's off with vanguard. Sure there was a letter from him on forum somewhere saying that he's moving on from swg.
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I thought Smed was the president of SOE?
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did I miss something? new Nge or whatever it is going to SWG again?
They're adding block and stun and shit to the game again.
Nothing new really...

The combat system (NGE) still sucks balls though.
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Have they actually added any content for anything? Or specifically space?
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