be offended by this or whatever, id just like to ask: do you think that multi kulti (lots of cultures, ie. many foreigners) in its current state (current state: get as much money from the state as possible with whatever ways possible) do your country a favor?

reason im posting this is a explanation in form of a booklet from a asylum-seeker in germany how to get as much physical things (like furniture etc.) and money from the state as possible as a foreigner. and at the same time calling the germans dumb because they support him with all that.

i've read that thing in the office today, a client who was quite offended by this gave exemplars to us (ofc they are in its basic version not in german language...)

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No absolutely not.

Fucking parasites is what they are (those who do that).

They should appreciate that a country is accepting them into their society instead of acting like a fuckass. (Yeah we have some of these in Sweden too)

No, I don't support multiculturalism in it's current state. Inviting under-developed (read: islamic) cultures into the country without questioning it was a rather bad idea in my opinion. Seems to come from some thought that 'no culture is better than another', which I don't really agree with.

It's not that I don't want other people in my country or think I belong to some master race or something, if someone wants to move here to create a better life for himself, by any means let him! However, moving to a new country to leech off it's endless supply of money should not be tolerated, much less encouraged. Instead, we should do something to help the countries where those immigrants come from, since mass immigration is really just a way of covering the real problems.

As I understand it, the American immigration laws are a lot tighter than those in Europe, and I think we should learn from them.

the american immigration laws are pretty funny as it was the principle of mass immigrating that made america the land they are today

Seems to me you people are pissed off about people leeching from society in general.

Since not every asylum seeker is here to leech money.

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The average imigrant according to figures in the Independant newspaper (a quality paper, not the usual crap) had the average immigrant coming into the uk being between 25-35. These individuals were here to get jobs and are often employed in sectors where it is now difficult to get workers in the UK. They are net payers to society (pay more in taxes than take out).

Because of this the UK is better off because of the current immigration, no matter what the tabloid newspapers say.

but it's easy to get the impression that every asylum seeker is here for leeching money. the average asylant costs 35k euro the year! they do nothing but sitting in their little foreign community... and dont even learn the language of this country! they dont even mow the grass thats growing infront their containers..some worker has to come to do that.

of course there are imigrants who are trying to start working! if they dont find any work they open something like a kebap shop (fair enough, at least they do something!)

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I know what you mean mate, but it's always hard to sort out those few (well there are a lot, but incomparison few) assholes that completely shit on society and just flat out leech of the state. Problem is you have about as many, if not more, nationals that are doing the same.

I think the real issue is how the state is pretty much fucking over those people that actually do work, pay their taxes and avoid most loopholes that could save them some money. Honesty is simply not being rewarded these days. My mother will most likely loose her job because her office is closing down. She has payed her taxes and worked for basically 40+ years now....yet she is too young to file for retirement and the money she would get for unemployment is just ridiculous. Thing is, that if she would dare to work a part time job she would end up with less then she would if se didn't work.

I guess my point is, that the crapy system we have here in germany is responsible for all those leechers. I mean if I could get more money for not working then I would for working.......you make the choice mate

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it wouldnt be that bad to pay the taxes if they would be used wisely, and not being spent like straw for cows. seeing the politicans that make presents like 4 high-tec u-boats to israel in worth of 2 billion euro... but at the same time not making schoolbooks free for kids of unemployed parents.
(just because its currently in media) or spend hundreds of million euro to libanon to rebuild their country... WTF?!? israel bombed it and now we have to pay to rebuild what they destroyed?
but thats nothing compared to the problems we have inside our country, goverment workers that get 3k euro a month, working 8 hours a day but in reality working only one hour the day if it comes high... it just gets too much.

no wonder nationalistic partys spread like weeds out of the ground..

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Yup that's kinda what I'm talking about. The immigrants, most of whom do want to work, get the blame because of those asshole leechers that end up in the media. Yet it's the government that fucked up by making it even possible, or better yet beneficial, to be a lazy bum.

I DEMAND A REVOLUTION......NOW

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it fucking sucks when the computer just shuts off and you have almost finished written a pretty long fucking reply at L2P.com

SO NOW I CANT BE ARSED WRITING IT AGAIN!
fuck this thread, now im mad

lol

It's little better than fucking communism.

Sounds alot worse in Germany than the UK though.

I'm glad now that my parents moved from London to the country.

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And what's wrong with communism?

The only problem with immigration is that the media use migrants as the cause of all the problems in society. Much better to blame non-English speaking people when you are trying to sell an english paper after all!

As already stated by Danto, most Immigrants here pay their way, and as a whole, they more than pay the cost of upkeep for the members of their culture that do qualify for benefits. The immigrants in the UK do shitty jobs that nobody else wants to do, often for minimum wage, or are self employed and so are filling an obvious gap in the market (else the business would not survive). Contrary to what you may have heard, immigrants do not qualify for benefits unless they have contributed to the economy in the past, or have somehow managed to survive here without income for at least 12 months.

Most people who have come to the UK have done so to build a better life for themselves. They want to work and they want to pay their own way. They do not come here for free handouts, but instead come here to give their families a better standard of living than would be possible in their own country. In order to reach this goal they are willing to undergo hardships that most people would never consider.

Despite the fact that immigrants are paying their way and contributing greatly to society, it seems the UK government is happy to restrict the next round of EU members from enjoying the same freedoms because the media has painted a very different picture to the reality.

I have employed immigrants in the past, and I will be happy to do so in the future. The work harder and are more reliable than any English bastards

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Sure, but once we're full, we're full

pfft you got kentucky, texas, arizona, utah, omaha and maine and so on to fill!

stay out of memphis though, kings territory!

I guess we've got plenty of space, but we dont have tax money to pay for all the illegal immigrants who use our tax-funded roads and schools and stuff, but dont pay taxes.

get them a horse per family and send them into apache land !

no carriages though, they're expensive !

another example for being scum are SOME older imigrants... like the one i had to make something for his tax declaration (dunno what its called in english), he went to germany 1975, 1978 he started getting a inability to work pension of 2000DM at this time, it increases every year(now it's 1400 €), because he told the doctor he has problems with his binding disk. he paid 3 years into the german social security and now is getting over 30 years so much money out of it... such stuff pisses me off right away

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Very nicely put Bucke

Closed societies and the "immigration issue" are for me the same thing as slavery and black rights in the US, something we will look back at in the future with shame.