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Old 06-19-2008, 01:33 AM
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Fucking religious nuts
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:25 AM
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This is why religion just makes the world a bad place.
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:30 AM
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From what I can see, tt's got bugger all to do with religion, read the story, the guy was simply mental.
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:37 AM
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Oh I know, im just commenting on Religion in general. Its shit.
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:37 AM
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(any chance to dig at religion, you'll find me )
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:46 AM
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Just curious Gil, (as I kinda go to church on every sunday )
What exactly is bad with religion?
I'm certain it says nowhere in any religion that you should do any bad acts in life, just to live as good and humble as possible.

Now certain religions may want you to stop smoking, use alcohol and such,
but that's just if you want to follow it to that extent

There are always stupid fuckheads everywhere and such who may use the religion as an excuse to do something bad.
But they exists outside religion as well
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:57 AM
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How many wars have you seen, murders, unrest & hatred between people have you seen over your lifetime? I bet you can think of a few right? Most (or nearly) all come from a Religious base. If religion is about peace and goodwill etc, why are so many 'religious' people at War with each other? Surely they would sit down and have a chat about it with some tea and biscuits?

If 'God' or 'Gods' existed, they wouldnt allow this to happen - bollocks to 'It happens for a reason' thats just not good enough. They dont exist, simple as.
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Oh and sorry if I offend anyone - Its just my belief that God/Gods dont exist.
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Old 06-19-2008, 10:24 AM
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Murdering people for working on the Sabbath (Exodus 35:2) is jolly good fun, I can tell you.
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+i agree with gil
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How many wars have you seen, murders, unrest & hatred between people have you seen over your lifetime? I bet you can think of a few right? Most (or nearly) all come from a Religious base. If religion is about peace and goodwill etc, why are so many 'religious' people at War with each other? Surely they would sit down and have a chat about it with some tea and biscuits?

If 'God' or 'Gods' existed, they wouldnt allow this to happen - bollocks to 'It happens for a reason' thats just not good enough. They dont exist, simple as.
There is nothing in the bible, and i'm most likely certain there is nothing in the Qur’an either that says you should start a war with some other country
Or treat other people like shit.

Now the laws in other middle eastern countries can be discussed I agree. But there is nothing in the bible that says that you should be cruel or treat anyone with disrespect.
Not even non-believers.

Well Gil, that statement has been used many times. But if you want a religious answer to it I believe such one could be like this:
God has placed us on earth to live our lives. Now if we want to do evil or to do good. That's up to each one. But the choices of our lives will have consequences just as everything else. It's a sort of trial each person has.
We live to learn and evolve.

Now if god exists or not, there's noone who knows. Just people who are more or less sure about it.
There's nothing wrong with having something to believe in.

No offence taken ofcourse, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.


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Murdering people for working on the Sabbath (Exodus 35:2) is jolly good fun, I can tell you.
We are all going to die sooner or later. Doesn't say when
Just stating the obvious.
Doesn't say you shall go around murdering people though

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I think it's tempting to blame religion for all the wars but as we've seen in the 20th century as religion fades, war grows. The only common denominator for 100% of wars throughout history is mankind. There's a great South Park episode where Cartman is frozen and wakes up thousands of years in the future where the human race battles it out in the name of atheism. Funny as hell but the serious point is plain to see.

The one thing about Islam is that in the Qur'an it does promote the use of holy wars against infidels. It's worth bearing in mind though that Islam covers not only faith but government and politics. It's where it differs with Christianity in that the Christianity does not explicitly tell you how to run your government and your country.
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I think it's tempting to blame religion for all the wars but as we've seen in the 20th century as religion fades, war grows. The only common denominator for 100% of wars throughout history is mankind. There's a great South Park episode where Cartman is frozen and wakes up thousands of years in the future where the human race battles it out in the name of atheism. Funny as hell but the serious point is plain to see.

The one thing about Islam is that in the Qur'an it does promote the use of holy wars against infidels. It's worth bearing in mind though that Islam covers not only faith but government and politics. It's where it differs with Christianity in that the Christianity does not explicitly tell you how to run your government and your country.
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As I said. I'm still not persuaded of the Quran encourages people to start holy wars.
It also depends how you interpret it.
I've also questioned alot of religious statements which I thought meant hostile things. But when I've confronted religious people about them they have explained them into further detail which has turned out which wasn't really what I interpreted it.
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There is nothing in the bible, and i'm most likely certain there is nothing in the Qur’an either that says you should start a war with some other country
Or treat other people like shit.
The Bible certainly teaches you to treat other people like shit.

Leviticus 18:22 teaches people to treat homosexuals like shit.
Exodus 21:7 teaches people to treat their daughters like shit - unless you don't think selling people into slavery is treating them wrongly?
Leviticus 25:44 teaches people to treat the citizens of neighbouring countries like shit for the same reason above.
Exodus 35:2 teaches people to treat people like shit by killing them for fucking working on a Sunday.
Leviticus 11:10 says that eating fucking shellfish is an abomination, just like homosexuality.

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That's the Old school fire and brimstone stuff, if you look at the newer stuff that Jesus chap inspired it says stuff more pleasant.. like "Love your neighbour as yourself", which is way more PC.
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The Bible certainly teaches you to treat other people like shit.

Leviticus 18:22 teaches people to treat homosexuals like shit.
Exodus 21:7 teaches people to treat their daughters like shit - unless you don't think selling people into slavery is treating them wrongly?
Leviticus 25:44 teaches people to treat the citizens of neighbouring countries like shit for the same reason above.
Exodus 35:2 teaches people to treat people like shit by killing them for fucking working on a Sunday.
Leviticus 11:10 says that eating fucking shellfish is an abomination, just like homosexuality.

...need any more?
The Exodus 21:7 in my interpretation only states the conditions of how your daughter during that time could be sold. Just states that she was worth more than man servants . Not requesting that she should be.


Leviticus 18:22 - Only says it's a disgusting thing to have sex with someone of the same sex. Nor to treat them like shit or be disrespectful.

Leviticus 25:44 - Same thing applies here. Was written during an old era.

Exodus 35:2 - Only states that it is a resting day, and such Saturdays and Sundays usually are. And it's the same here. Time changes and companies employ people to work on Saturday and Sundays, so what do you do?

Leviticus 11:10 - Only says the things living in the sea are a disgusting thing
And I bet most people think they are horrible too
Not that you're not allowed to eat them really

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I agree with Tagert!

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