Why does it have to be an f'ing joke? The MMO market is dog crap right now if you don't want to mash 2 and 3 for the rest of your life and play WoW, and a lot of the really "pr0" big names from the pvp world - the big names from L2, daoc, gw, even eq - are basically scattered to the wind because of it.

I posted here because I thought this forum would be a reasonable place to find mmo gamers who want more out of their pvp experience, and would be intrigued by a severely underrated new mmo - but the troll response here has been forceful enough to demand a rabies shot - sorry if I offended

Regardless of how much you've all evidently taken a disliking to me, you should look into the game if you really aren't wow nubs (which I'm starting to doubt, in some cases...) - it's an amazing opportunity for pvp